Speaker 1: 0:13

This is Hokey Pokey Politics, where we believe politics shouldn't ruin relationships. We are two people with opposite political views, proving that it's possible to disagree, discuss and still get along.

Speaker 2: 0:26

Welcome to the program. Testing, testing, testing, testing. All right, so we got the intro music going right now. Is that what's happening?

Speaker 1: 0:35

Okay, so intro music, followed by intro Intro who's?

Speaker 2: 0:39

going to record that. I don't know, maybe we'll get somebody with the sexy voice. Can't think of anyone.

Speaker 1: 0:43

Should be a woman, though Should be a woman. Yeah For diversity, equity here we go. Here we go, let's just, let's just jump right in, whether she's good or not.

Speaker 2: 1:01

It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. It just diversifies the show and that's really what's important, okay maybe we should have an all white person show all males.

Speaker 1: 1:06

I think we do. Oh yeah, there's two of us and we're both white good job, dang it.

Speaker 2: 1:10

He nailed it crap. I'm drinking some larceny barrel proof, some c 924 knob creek C-924.

Speaker 1: 1:16

Knob Creek 12?, I don't know, it's good.

Speaker 2: 1:21

Yeah, a little Knob Creek's alright, smells like Ambrosia. Ambrosia, you get a little pencil shavings along with some charred oak and some toasted vanilla bean. Whatever those people.

Speaker 1: 1:38

They don't know. They don't know there is no way.

Speaker 2: 1:40

They're like oh man, this, this really has the essence of a of a late summer tree bark and I'm like they don't know, you have no idea.

Speaker 1: 1:47

It reminds me of uh, do you know who hank haney is? He's a golf legend coach. Okay, he was tigers coach for years and years and years and he did a show where he took celebrities and he improved their golf game. Okay, and you won't like this, but Rush Limbaugh was on it one time and Hank was really nervous about having Rush Limbaugh on because he didn't really like him, right, and but found out that he was actually a pretty good golfer and a fun guy to be around.

Speaker 1: 2:13

But in this one episode the ball was on the green and Rush was walking around the ball, you know as they do. And he said you know, I don't know why people do this. I do it because that's what the pros do and that seems like what you're supposed to do, but I don't know why anybody does it. And it reminds me of that. It's like what are you really doing when you're walking around the golf ball? What are the pros doing? Nobody knows. What are you really doing when you're walking around the golf ball? What are the pros doing? Nobody knows. They don't even know, right, we don't know. When you sniff whiskey, when you taste whiskey, what does it taste like?

Speaker 1: 2:42

It tastes like whiskey, yeah, it doesn't taste like molasses and candy corn and whatever, anise and ambrosia, whatever we say it just tastes like whiskey.

Speaker 2: 2:52

Yeah, it just tastes good it burns tastes good.

Speaker 1: 2:59

It burns, it's a good burn. But if you want to be a pompous ass, yeah, then it tastes like all those other things I do and who can argue it?

Speaker 2: 3:02

that's the other thing I can't. You can't argue no because it tastes like what it tastes like to me.

Speaker 2: 3:06

So there's a the, the store manager at benny's, nice guy. I go in I he talks me into a bottle. I take this bottle home. It was a fairly expensive bottle. I try it. It tastes like old mold. I mean, it's like a dirty basement and I'm like, oh god, this is terrible. So I gave it a little bit, tried it again, waited till after dinner, tried it again. I'm like good god, this is terrible. So I pour him a little one and a half ounce, you know know, sample and I take that thing into Benny's and I'm like I think I got a bad bottle. He kicks that thing back and he's like man, that is delicious. And I was like what? And he's like, oh yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2: 3:48

So ask a few other people. They love it, it's perfect. My palate just sucks. I don't like for me. And he did talk about that. He's like dude, there's things that you're going to like, that, he's going to like that, I'm going to like that. You know, like every one of these are going to be a little different, but I can tell if something's good or bad and I can. I can pull like some vanilla, some basic uh, it tastes kind of caramely. It tasted a little. You know I can taste the Oak Like I can get that stuff little. You know I can taste the oak like I can get that stuff because that's usually the leading flavor that's coming out of it.

Speaker 1: 4:22

Yeah, they all taste vanilla, they all taste. They all taste smoky and they all taste. What was the other flavor? You just vanilla oak. Anyway, they all taste yeah, they all taste that, because that's what's in there.

Speaker 2: 4:36

Whatever you said, we'll have to go back and listen.

Speaker 1: 4:42

So what about? What about diversity? What don't you like about it? I don't have an issue with diversity. I have an issue when diversity takes the place of competence, when diversity is given priority over competence.

Speaker 2: 4:52

I mean, I don't. I heard a lot of people talking about Kamala as if she was a DEI hire. Does that how you say it, kamala? People talking about Kamala as if she was a DEI hire Is that how you say it, kamala, kamala, kamala? No, it's Kamala, I'm good with it. Yeah, I know you are. She was elected, that's not.

Speaker 1: 5:09

DEI. No, she was legitimately a DEI hire. Joe Biden said that. He said I'm choosing her because she's black and she's a woman.

Speaker 2: 5:19

He specifically said that. So that's where they're getting it from. Yeah, he specifically said that. I mean she got to the attorney general in California off her merit.

Speaker 1: 5:23

She got to the Senate in California off her merit If her merit was having sex with the mayor then yes she got that.

Speaker 2: 5:33

They're going to get you to get the more people to vote for you.

Speaker 1: 5:37

That's how she got to be the attorney general.

Speaker 2: 5:40

I mean, wasn't she elected in? I mean, a mayor can't appoint an attorney general. He can certainly back her though.

Speaker 1: 5:46

Yeah, that has a lot of pull. I need to research that a little bit. I mean, I'm sorry, but that woman is, you're going to tell me, over the last four years you feel like she was competent at her job.

Speaker 2: 5:59

Here's what I'll tell you 2016 election night. Donald Trump is ahead and I'm watching these acceptance speeches from across the country. And she had just won the nominee, or won her nomination, for the Senate, for California Senate. She was there a G before she reached and she won the Senate race and she gave a speech and I was like, holy crap, like this girl's got it. Like she's, she's smart. She went after a bunch of criminals that were bad guys. She went after some corrupt corporations. She went after like like she's, she's she.

Speaker 2: 6:34

She reminded me calm yourself a little bit here. She reminded me of Obama like a, like an Obama speech. Like it was engaging and it was powerful. And at the end there was a, a push to action, and I was just like man, this, this, this lady, might be something one of these days never imagined. Four years later, she'd be on the VP ticket. That was way too soon. Like she needed to. She needed to get some some friends in washington before you start running that game, um. But early on, I was impressed with her during her tenure as vice president. That's a bs job. Like I don't know of any vice presidents that I really felt were like good go-getters. You know what I mean. Like Mike Pence didn't do anything.

Speaker 1: 7:20

I do, but I think that job is what you make of it.

Speaker 2: 7:24

Yeah, you're always in the shadow, though You've always got somebody above you that's going to overrule you, and you saw that with Pence, you saw that with Biden, you saw that before with Biden.

Speaker 1: 7:32

I agree, dick Cheney, it is a shadow job, right, but when that woman speaks, she says nothing of substance, but she uses 400 words to do it. Every single time you saw her give a great speech, it was written. Yes, it was. She didn't write it, sure, she may have been able to deliver it Well, just like Obama, he was. Obama is a a good orator, there's no question, right, he, he is, and he's a compelling orator, especially to his base. They love listening to him talk. She's a cackling hen when she talks, her voice is abrasive, it's not even good to listen to and she says nothing. She's as nonsensical as Biden, but Biden has dementia. That's why he's nonsensical. She's just nonsensical because she can't string five words together that make sense.

Speaker 2: 8:30

The thing is, and it's a product of our current political environment in my mind. It's a product of our current political environment in my mind, but since 2016, I haven't seen a president or vice president stand up and make a speech with any abilities any, I mean you. You watch a trump speech and it's like the most rambling babbling, like he's on one subject and then he just switches tracks, doesn't tell anybody in the crowd. You see the crowd like what the what is this guy talking about? And then you get biden and biden's talking and next thing you know he's babbling off about something random like that's who we have that's the best we have to offer.

Speaker 1: 9:11

The difference is not that it's a good difference, but the difference is one of them's doing it without a teleprompter, one of them's doing it with a teleprompter.

Speaker 2: 9:19

That that's the difference, yeah, but both of them have biden trump. Both have the power hungry gene in their soul that they're not going to tell. I don't want to say they're not going to have anybody tell them what to do, because I'm sure they both can. You know, they both can be put into to check, but neither of them are following what their, what their advisors are telling them to do. They both are going to do whatever they want to do because they're both, in their mind, the all powerful Quite. Honestly, that's what terrifies me with Trump now is he doesn't have guardrails.

Speaker 1: 9:58

I don't think Biden has been in control for at least two years. I think he's too far gone. I don't think he's been in any. I think he's always had someone pulling the strings, at least over the last two years. He's just old. I mean, I'm not bashing the guy, he's just old.

Speaker 1: 10:17

But the fact that they would run him again while they're watching him decline, while insisting that he's not declining, and then, in the last hour, pull him, install someone else install that word was used intentionally because she wasn't voted on, which is a crock, and I can't believe that you as an American, as somebody who loves freedom, is okay with even that. I mean, you might be okay with her, but there should have been at least a special election. I mean, the fact that they just installed her goes against everything the election process is about. But I'm so angry about that I can't even remember where I was going. But then so they tell us he's competent for four years and then, at the last hour, they pull him and the excuse they give is because he's incompetent. Right, I mean his, his debate was straight painful.

Speaker 2: 11:15

Yeah, I mean it was bad and like I I remember watching that. I mean amelia was there with me and we were just like, oh my god, like he's not arguing, like like trump would tell a blatant, flat-out lie and trump would go, or biden would go along and be like 50 billion people and I'm like dude, what do you do? Like, did you? Did you not rehearse? Or is your brain that far gone that without having somebody pull your puppet strings, so what is? This lie that you, oh my god, purport to literally everything.

Speaker 1: 11:48

The man, said of course, of course.

Speaker 2: 11:50

Everything he says has to be, has to be the guy, the guy I don't know that. I've heard him tell the truth on much of anything. Of course it's that bad of course not.

Speaker 1: 11:58

Yes, absolutely. He's just 100. A liar never tells the truth about anything did he win the 2020 election?

Speaker 2: 12:04

he still won't tell you today if he won the 2020 election. I still don't know if he won the 2020 election god so did he win the 2024 election did.

Speaker 1: 12:12

Did hillary lose the 2016 election? Yes, does she believe that? Yes, no, she absolutely does not.

Speaker 2: 12:18

He came out that night and said she conceded.

Speaker 1: 12:20

But then she went on a whirlwind tour telling everybody that he was an illegitimate president he is an illegitimate president okay but that's so.

Speaker 2: 12:29

But that doesn't mean he didn't win. That means you had whatever it was 30% of the population that voted for this guy. It was their will. The largest voting block in this country is the non-voters. There are more people that don't vote than there are people that vote yeah for sure. So when we sit like that's my only hope for this, honestly for this country, is like it's not half the population thinks that he's the best choice, it's half the voting population think he's the best choice.

Speaker 1: 12:58

Well, even in 2016,. I don't think they voted for him. I think they voted against him, 100%.

Speaker 2: 13:05

No, question yeah, and that's the thing no-transcript democratic woman out there that the right is not going to completely bash as being, you know, uh uh, a tramp, and she slept her way to get there.

Speaker 2: 13:51

I mean, you know what I'm saying. Like, no matter what the white is going to say, that if you have a choir girl that is the perfect child of a whatever, they're going to come out and bash her, just like the left is going to come out and bash whoever's to the right. I'm not saying that it's one-sided, like everybody. It's politics. It's because there's too much money in it. But anyway, what were you going to say?

Speaker 1: 14:15

I don't know. I mean, I was going to say, yeah, you ran two unlikable women. I do think if you had a likable, competent woman that you ran, that Latino men would vote for her. Who was the one that just switched sides? Oh, she's not a Democrat, she's never been a Democrat, but she was on the yeah, so I think I think people would have voted for her.

Speaker 2: 14:36

Because it would be Republicans that are well Democrats would. I think Democrats would have. She, she is. She is a absolute train wreck and if she gets, I mean she's probably going. Yeah, she's. Yeah, she's a freaking Putin supporter, like somebody who loves a dictator. She should run our government.

Speaker 1: 14:56

That is terrifying. Everybody, everybody who is not a Democrat is a Putin supporter.

Speaker 2: 15:01

No, no. But if you blatantly go out there they are. If you go out there and you're okay with Putin taking over other countries for whatever reason, I don't care what the reason is. If you're okay with that, like that's not a good person.

Speaker 1: 15:21

Here's the thing why is it okay for us to do it? It's not, but it's not okay for him to do it.

Speaker 2: 15:26

It's absolutely not okay for us to do it. We shouldn't have done it in Iraq, we shouldn't have done it in Afghanistan. It cost us thousands of soldiers lives. It cost us, you know, and I would say this is probably true of 99.9% of Americans.

Speaker 1: 15:53

I don't know what's going on there. I don't know the history. I don't know why he invaded Ukraine. I don't know why Ukraine was ripe for the picking. I don't know what Ukraine did, if anything, to provoke it. I don't know To just suddenly jump on this bandwagon of, oh, we're with ukraine. Why? Because they're the little guy in my mind. Yes, we can't support israel, though, even though they're the little guy surrounded by everybody. Oh, the democrats hate israel. So we can't support israel, even though they're the little guy. While hamas is is lobbying missiles into their country left, right and center, but Ukraine gets attacked by Putin and all of a sudden, we're all supposed to be Ukraine supporters. Why? Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. I mean, that's a. They're hugely into the drug trade, they're hugely into the sex trade, so are Americans, absolutely.

Speaker 1: 16:49

But they're hugely into the sex trafficking Absolutely, but they're hugely into the sex trafficking. They're corrupt as all get out. I've met people from Ukraine. I met a guy several years ago when I went to Prague who lives in Prague, has lived there for 15 years and has a wife and son back in Ukraine and he has to go to Prague to make a living because it's so corrupt there he can't make a living to take care of his wife and child. I'm sorry, why am I going to support a country like that? No, I'm not saying I'm supporting Putin either. I'm saying I don't know who's right here. I have no idea.

Speaker 2: 17:23

I mean, here's the thing. Who is definitely not right is somebody who's attacking another country.

Speaker 1: 17:29

That not true. 100, that is not true if you are. If, all of a sudden, canada cuban missile crisis, cuban missile crisis cuba put nuclear missiles lined up at the united states, okay, we went and attacked them. Were we wrong for doing it? No, they. They provoked us. Yes, I mean, how do you know? Ukraine didn't do something similar? I'm not saying they did, I'm saying I don't know, and neither do you.

Speaker 2: 17:55

Here's the difference, though what didn't happen after Cuba was we go in and we take over their entire country, or we try to. That didn't happen.

Speaker 1: 18:03

Right, so we should have. We absolutely should have. For what? So that we have another Puerto Rico, so that we don't have it happen again. We went to Iraq. We lost a lot of people there and for what To pull out, and now we have nothing to show. So Palo Verde could make billions? Yeah, exactly, ultimately. Same thing with Vietnam. We go to Vietnam. We lose tons and tons of good men there, right, and even the ones who came back we kind of lost, oh, 100%. And what do we have to show for it? Right, absolutely nothing. Right, yeah, I agree with that. But that's also why, if we're not taking them over, we should at least establish a peaceful, a peacekeeping presence.

Speaker 2: 18:43

Yeah, I mean, we tried that in Afghanistan. We saw that work. Yeah, it all that right yeah, it doesn't work.

Speaker 1: 18:47

That's why it doesn't work. When the country doesn't want you there the problem, the the bottom line is we shouldn't even be there. That's the bottom line. We just shouldn't. If we're not going to take it, then we shouldn't even be there.

Speaker 2: 18:57

Yeah I that I don't. I don't disagree with. We had no business. Yes, iraq was a. You know saddam was gonna at that time. Saddam was going to take over kuwait, which that's an oil country we've got got to be. You know, we have a vested interest in that. So we're going to go preemptively attack him and we're going to take his country over, whatever. Should we have done it? No, in my mind, I think it was a mistake. I don't think the risk outweighed the benefit that we got there or the casualties that we got outweighed the benefit that we received. Same with Afghanistanistan was ultimately a direct result of 9-11, and there was no afghanis on any of those planes.

Speaker 1: 19:36

Well, it was all you know what I'm saying, like I'm wrong, but wasn't it all saudi arabians? Yes, 100, all 19, but you know, we're, we're all fancy right we're all with the prince of saudi arabia. So we can't right, we can't do anything there. So so let's go after countries that had nothing to do with it Right and that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 2: 19:53

I mean, you had people that got very rich off of war and you have it every single time it happens. People will get very rich off of war.

Speaker 1: 20:01

War is the greatest economic. What's the word I'm looking for?

Speaker 2: 20:05

I mean, it's the greatest economic boom you. Why the us did so well from 1945 to 1965, it's because there was no competition. We didn't have to worry about anybody building cars in japan, right like they were trying to rebuild their lives well, we paid for a lot of that, yeah, but yeah, which we shouldn't have.

Speaker 1: 20:23

don't get me started. I mean, okay, but anyway, wait a minute, wait a minute. You come here, you, you did they pay anything to rebuild Pearl Harbor? Absolutely not, probably not, absolutely not, no.

Speaker 2: 20:36

Did we didn't start that war? Did we kind of hit them a little harder than they hit us?

Speaker 1: 20:42

Yes, I mean, they killed a few thousand of us.

Speaker 2: 20:44

They were. We drop a bomb that kills a hundred thousand. They weren't going to stop that kills a hundred thousand.

Speaker 1: 20:52

They weren't going to stop. No, I mean, it worked, don't get me wrong. But today we tried. We tried every diplomatic channel we could with japan, right they?

Speaker 1: 20:59

started they started putting people don't touch the boats. They started putting people in their missiles what? And firing them at ships. I mean, they had these airplanes that were basically yeah, yeah, yeah, and they would put people in them and fire them. That's how committed they were to destroying us. We had one option, in my opinion, which is hellfire and brimstone. It's going to get much worse if you don't stop and they I'm not justifying, I'm not denying, I'm not what happened happened.

Speaker 2: 21:31

Stop and they.

Speaker 1: 21:32

I'm not justifying I'm not denying I'm not really what happened happened. The nuclear bombs we dropped weren't even the biggest devastating factor of that it was just the civilians at that point oh, we had already those.

Speaker 1: 21:41

Those towns were already destroyed by I don't know if it was napalm we were dropped. We were dropping something that, and of course everything they build over there is made out of, like you know, flammable, like the most flammable wood you have, like that really thin wood, you know that they used to build it. So we were already dropping hellacious bombs on them. I mean, by the time those nuclear bombs hit, those towns were already destroyed. But it was the ferocity of those bombs right that made them go crap. We need to stop right now.

Speaker 2: 22:12

Yeah, let's, let's chill out. These guys, these guys are, uh, they're a little bigger than what we thought. Yeah, yeah, no doubt, but but anyway. So back to the ukraine thing. In my mind, there is no justification. Number one 2014. In my mind, obama should have done something when putin took crimea. I mean, crimea was a territory of another country, and why? I guess, let me back up, because stating that Obama should have done something means we are the world police. But the problem is, if we're going to be part of a union, if we're going to be part of NATO, they're not part of NATO, we know. You know, if Trump is allowed to start taking over countries, why would he stop? What would make a guy stop? That's a huge leap. That's the same thing. That's the same thing.

Speaker 1: 23:04

So he has such a negative, corrupt view of this?

Speaker 2: 23:08

Because Putin is such a terrible human being. So Putin takes Crimea and at the time, hey, that's all he wants. He just wants the border, he just wants the, the trade route to the black sea or whatever sea that is there. That's all he wants. He's good, come on, he's never good, he always wants more. So what's he do? Six years later, he attacks the country to try to take the rest of the country. If he was, if he marched through ukraine three days, like they expected, I guarantee to you, like there is a zero doubt in my soul, that Poland would have been next, or, you know, one of the other Slovakias would have been next. He's not going to stop there. Why would he? He just proved to the world that he can go, take whatever he wants with force, and the last thing you need is one person that starts creeping in and starts getting too much power and too much size.

Speaker 1: 23:58

I don't think you have any evidentiary reason for saying what you're saying.

Speaker 2: 24:02

That's, that's my common sense in my mind. I don't think you have any. He's a terrible dictator, he probably is like he is no different than Saddam.

Speaker 1: 24:13

He probably is right he will different than saddam. He will probably is right he will his competitors. I'm not saying that he's not, I'm just saying he's been in power a long time, yeah, and he has not made any efforts to try to take over the world that I've seen. He attacked crimea. I don't even know why. Do you know why?

Speaker 2: 24:29

because Because he wanted the seaports. He wanted that land. It's not his though.

Speaker 1: 24:41

So if there's a bully on the playground, the US has always been the guy to stop the bullies. So you don't think, if the Panama Canal was suddenly shut off to the US, that we wouldn't do something about that. That's a big deal. That's a big deal. That is a huge deal. We would do something. We would do something about that. So, because that affects our, our economic trade, it affects us. So how do you know it's not the same thing? What do you mean? How do you know the crimea thing's not the?

Speaker 2: 25:03

same thing. I mean, could it be that's what I'm saying? It's not like he doesn't have other access I'm gonna have to research it.

Speaker 1: 25:09

I have no idea why he did it, but the ukraine thing. So all the people I know that live in that region and I know quite a few, the chicks are hot all the people I know that live in that region are not supportive of ukraine in this issue and they don't like russians, like they really don't like russ at all, and they are not supportive of Ukraine in this issue. Man, that seems hard to believe Because they understand the history. I don't.

Speaker 2: 25:38

That's the thing. The history here is way deeper than a 30 minute podcast, and I'll really turn the heat up.

Speaker 1: 25:43

I think the only reason we're defending Ukraine in this whole thing is so the Bidens can continue to launder their money. Oh, my Jesus Are you for real?

Speaker 2: 25:50

Are you kidding? Why would they need to launder their money? Oh my Jesus, are you for real? Are you kidding? Why would they need to launder?

Speaker 1: 25:54

anything, I don't know, but that's where it comes from. So they send Ukraine a bunch of money for support, yeah, and then a bunch of it comes back to them, all of it comes back here, but not to the Bidens.

Speaker 2: 26:07

Oh, of course it comes to every defense contractor. It goes to hunter because he's put on some oil board when he has absolutely zero experience as an oil person. Hold on, so that's not true. So now the well, so we've investigated siden. Are we going to investigate trump's kids? Billions of dollars that they made in the last?

Speaker 1: 26:25

four years, sure, if you want to. They're legitimate business people. Oh my, go for it. God, are you for real? So he's getting250,000 a month to be on a board that he has nothing to do with? Okay, I don't care. What does that affect me? I'm not saying it affects you. I'm saying that's why we're supporting them.

Speaker 2: 26:42

No, I don't think that has anything to do with what we're supporting Absolutely. I think it's part of it.

Speaker 1: 26:53

We are sending our third class weapons, because the big guy has to get in there and get it done.

Speaker 2: 26:58

I mean, if it was for Biden, I would say no. The fact of the matter is there are innocent people, right, wrong or indifferent, who are being hurt by Putin and his army, and I think we should step in and help them there are innocent people who are, who are being hurt by Ukraine and their government.

Speaker 2: 27:20

Anyways, if, if that means we spend, if we, if that means we spend a billion dollars of taxpayer money, which don't get me wrong, this isn't I'm not saying this is all a hundred percent right we spend a billion dollars of taxpayer money to. We hand a check to Ukraine. Ukraine hands a check back to the US and says I want to buy all of this military equipment.

Speaker 1: 27:41

Okay, I don't think they're buying it. I mean, I think we're giving it to them. No, no, if I'm giving you money and then you're giving me back that money to buy equipment from me, I'm paying for that equipment.

Speaker 2: 27:56

You are you are, but it's at least allocating it so that we can buy new stuff and we can get rid of the old. But then we get to take the world's second largest army and pummel the hell out of it. And why are there secret guns getting involved? Because, in my mind, if you don't, why are they sitting involved? Because I, in my mind, if you get involved in that stupid war, if you don't, he's gonna, he's not gonna stop with ukraine.

Speaker 1: 28:19

I don't. You have nothing to. You have no reason to think that he would, that he would stop. I have every reason to think he would stop. He's been in power for years and years and years and hasn't done it. He hasn't had the every opportunity. He's always had the ability. They're a superpower.

Speaker 2: 28:35

I mean he's always had the ability.

Speaker 1: 28:36

Well, he's the second reagan.

Speaker 2: 28:38

Reagan took care of that he's the number two army in freaking ukraine right now.

Speaker 1: 28:42

I mean he's he's had his man, he's funny the number two rv in ukraine. Yeah, that's funny. I'll give you that one yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2: 28:51

I I obviously we're not going to agree on ukraine, and that's funny, I'll give you that one. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I I obviously we're not going to agree on ukraine, and that's, that's fine I'm not agreeing or disagreeing.

Speaker 1: 28:57

I'm saying I don't know, I haven't done enough. I don't I haven't done enough research because I don't care. Yeah, I get it, I don't. I get it, I don't. I don't know why we're over there or not over there. I don't know why we're sending money. That's what I care about. We shouldn't be sending money over there. We've sent so much money over there. We didn't have any money to help out the people in north carolina when the hurricane hit I mean, I don't know if that's true either, but no, that's absolutely true.

Speaker 1: 29:19

The fema has said that the they've already shown that money was taken from the fema account, sent to ukraine and then fema. When the north carolina thing happened, fema was like we don't have any money. Sorry, sounds like news max I mean it might be, yeah, it might be, but look at what? What really happened it's not news max is that the people who needed help if they had a trump sign in the yard, they didn't get it. That's absolutely in a republican state.

Speaker 2: 29:41

Absolutely. Both of those states, north and south carolina, are both republicans.

Speaker 1: 29:45

That was a directive from fema. There is no. How do you not know? This I I've heard it was that I've seen news for like three weeks. I do not know. Yes, it was that's no.

Speaker 2: 29:57

No, when you get on twitter and you it wasn't, it was, that's where it started twitter but is you get some? Some nimwit that posts something like well, I didn't get, I didn't get any fema money. They're giving 700 out and I didn't give it out, probably because I had a trump sign. And then trump gets it and he's like, oh my god, tweet, tweet, tweet. I gotta put out the nobody got it. And you have everybody on the right side. Do phoenix no giving it money.

Speaker 1: 30:22

That's not true. And then you it's not true from fema, who said well, yeah, that's what, that's what I was telling my people, because that's what I was being told to tell them. The woman from FEMA was saying so, fema is saying that they are not giving you.

Speaker 2: 30:39

I can't believe you don't know this, because it's not, there's no way.

Speaker 1: 30:42

that's true. It absolutely is. When we come back at the next episode, I will have you on the face. I'm going to have you on the will have. I can't believe. You don't know this. I, I listen, I heard the rumors. I don't 100 of the rumors. That's the problem, and the fact that you don't know that this is the democrat land you love living in. I don't, I don't know, I don't know about all that. Do you love it? How about another? Another little squirt? Oh, you want some of this.

Speaker 2: 31:10

This is warmer.

Speaker 1: 31:11

Whiskey makes these conversations.

Speaker 2: 31:12

This one's going to burn a little money right here.

Speaker 1: 31:14

Yeah, this conversation is going to burn a little money. Oh Jesus, you threw that in the face, man, I'm not getting right in the face. I just can't believe you don't know that. I mean, there was a whole Senate hearing about it.

Speaker 2: 31:24

I can't believe you didn't know that that they're in this senate. Well, it's just a twitter. I mean, there was twitter, so here's the thing there was also an entire senate meeting about the january 6th stuff. Does that mean it was true, this part that that, that insubordination, that or not, insubordination, insurrection, insurrection, yeah, yeah, absolutely so there's first unarmed insurrection in world history.

Speaker 1: 31:44

It's fantastic, okay, yeah, so you believe it. First unarmed insurrection in world history okay, so? So do you believe there was an insurrection? No, absolutely not. So Okay, so do you believe there was an insurrection? No, absolutely not. But there was a city worrying about it Because the Democrats were like, oh, insurrection, insurrection, open the gates, let them in. Insurrection, insurrection, trump's bad.

Speaker 2: 32:01

Trump is bad.

Speaker 1: 32:02

Yeah, I know, I know he's horrible. So is Biden, I know he's horrible. Negotiated a ceasefire between us and israel, but he's not even. He's not even in office yet we've already got a ceasefire, something I couldn't pull off for two years.

Speaker 2: 32:18

Is this real life right now?

Speaker 1: 32:20

that's actually what's happening. I mean, that is real life. What's happening is real life. You can deny it all you want, but that's actually what happened. Where are we at?

Speaker 2: 32:31

I'm getting a phone call, so my thing might have just died. I forgot.

Speaker 1: 32:33

Where are we at time-wise?

Speaker 2: 32:35

Oh, I have no idea. Quite a while, I mean, should we end it? Yeah, okay, I got to find out how much crow I've got to eat next freaking week. I can't wait. Well, cheers, hokey, pokey politics baby.

Speaker 1: 32:51

Hokey pokey politics. I still like you. I still like you too. All right, see you guys, be a good one. I think that was fun.